[WikiEducator] Potential new project. Aquatic insect key

Discussion:

Declan

2015-08-08 01:45:50 UTC

Hi folks

I have put some aquatic insect resources online in WE and I'm considering a
new one.

The idea is an aquatic invertebrate key...point and click with lots of
photographs.

All traditional identification keys essentially work the same way...paired
questions that walk you through the identification process. But imbedded
in this process, and ignored in a paper key, there is some binary logic.
Each insect either has or has not got each of several characteristics. I
think my first draft will be similar to the traditional, time honored key.

But....I think that I can make the process more efficient by building some
mug shot pages. The idea will be to have panels of 4 images and have users
click on the best match. Most people can tell if they have a snail, an
insect, a worm, or an arachnid. My thinking is that 4 pictorial choices
could rapidly take a person through the process and reduce some frustration
for beginners.

Also built into all organism classifications we have nested groups.
Several species within each genus; some genera within each family.....etc.
I wonder if I need to build that into file structure? Or would that be
better handled using Wiki categories and sub categories?

Any thoughts or suggestions before I begin?

Cheers

Declan
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Luis Miguel Morillas

2015-08-08 10:52:21 UTC

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But you want to create an encyclopedia of aquatic invertebrates or
some kind of interactive resource to classify them?

Saludos,

Post by Declan
Hi folks
I have put some aquatic insect resources online in WE and I'm considering a
new one.
The idea is an aquatic invertebrate key...point and click with lots of
photographs.
All traditional identification keys essentially work the same way...paired
questions that walk you through the identification process. But imbedded in
this process, and ignored in a paper key, there is some binary logic. Each
insect either has or has not got each of several characteristics. I think
my first draft will be similar to the traditional, time honored key.
But....I think that I can make the process more efficient by building some
mug shot pages. The idea will be to have panels of 4 images and have users
click on the best match. Most people can tell if they have a snail, an
insect, a worm, or an arachnid. My thinking is that 4 pictorial choices
could rapidly take a person through the process and reduce some frustration
for beginners.
Also built into all organism classifications we have nested groups. Several
species within each genus; some genera within each family.....etc. I wonder
if I need to build that into file structure? Or would that be better
handled using Wiki categories and sub categories?
Any thoughts or suggestions before I begin?
Cheers
Declan
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Declan

2015-08-09 02:02:17 UTC

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an interactive resource for identification!

Post by Luis Miguel Morillas
But you want to create an encyclopedia of aquatic invertebrates or
some kind of interactive resource to classify them?
Saludos,

Post by Declan
Hi folks
I have put some aquatic insect resources online in WE and I'm

considering a

Post by Declan
new one.
The idea is an aquatic invertebrate key...point and click with lots of
photographs.
All traditional identification keys essentially work the same

way...paired

Post by Declan
questions that walk you through the identification process. But

imbedded in

Post by Declan
this process, and ignored in a paper key, there is some binary logic.

Each

Post by Declan
insect either has or has not got each of several characteristics. I

think

Post by Declan
my first draft will be similar to the traditional, time honored key.
But....I think that I can make the process more efficient by building

some

Post by Declan
mug shot pages. The idea will be to have panels of 4 images and have

users

Post by Declan
click on the best match. Most people can tell if they have a snail, an
insect, a worm, or an arachnid. My thinking is that 4 pictorial choices
could rapidly take a person through the process and reduce some

frustration

Post by Declan
for beginners.
Also built into all organism classifications we have nested groups.

Several

Post by Declan
species within each genus; some genera within each family.....etc. I

wonder

Post by Declan
if I need to build that into file structure? Or would that be better
handled using Wiki categories and sub categories?
Any thoughts or suggestions before I begin?
Cheers
Declan
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Gita Mathur

2015-08-09 04:53:07 UTC

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This is great. I look forward to following this project.

Gira Mathur

Post by Declan
an interactive resource for identification!

Post by Luis Miguel Morillas
But you want to create an encyclopedia of aquatic invertebrates or
some kind of interactive resource to classify them?
Saludos,

Post by Declan
Hi folks
I have put some aquatic insect resources online in WE and I'm

considering a

Post by Declan
new one.
The idea is an aquatic invertebrate key...point and click with lots of
photographs.
All traditional identification keys essentially work the same

way...paired

Post by Declan
questions that walk you through the identification process. But

imbedded in

Post by Declan
this process, and ignored in a paper key, there is some binary logic.

Each

Post by Declan
insect either has or has not got each of several characteristics. I

think

Post by Declan
my first draft will be similar to the traditional, time honored key.
But....I think that I can make the process more efficient by building

some

Post by Declan
mug shot pages. The idea will be to have panels of 4 images and have

users

frustration

Post by Declan
for beginners.
Also built into all organism classifications we have nested groups.

Several

Post by Declan
species within each genus; some genera within each family.....etc. I

wonder

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Luis Miguel Morillas

2015-08-09 08:47:09 UTC

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Ok. Can you send a descriptive use case to make a more complete idea
of the complexity

Saludos,

Post by Gita Mathur
This is great. I look forward to following this project.
Gira Mathur

Post by Declan
an interactive resource for identification!

Post by Luis Miguel Morillas
But you want to create an encyclopedia of aquatic invertebrates or
some kind of interactive resource to classify them?
Saludos,

Post by Declan
Hi folks
I have put some aquatic insect resources online in WE and I'm considering a
new one.
The idea is an aquatic invertebrate key...point and click with lots of
photographs.
All traditional identification keys essentially work the same way...paired
questions that walk you through the identification process. But imbedded in
this process, and ignored in a paper key, there is some binary logic.
Each
insect either has or has not got each of several characteristics. I think
my first draft will be similar to the traditional, time honored key.
But....I think that I can make the process more efficient by building some
mug shot pages. The idea will be to have panels of 4 images and have users
click on the best match. Most people can tell if they have a snail, an
insect, a worm, or an arachnid. My thinking is that 4 pictorial choices
could rapidly take a person through the process and reduce some frustration
for beginners.
Also built into all organism classifications we have nested groups.
Several
species within each genus; some genera within each family.....etc. I wonder
if I need to build that into file structure? Or would that be better
handled using Wiki categories and sub categories?
Any thoughts or suggestions before I begin?
Cheers
Declan
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Jeanie

2015-08-09 09:03:48 UTC

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This is a terrific idea. Will make an amazing resource.

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Post by Luis Miguel Morillas
Ok. Can you send a descriptive use case to make a more complete idea
of the complexity
Saludos,

Post by Gita Mathur
This is great. I look forward to following this project.
Gira Mathur

Post by Declan
an interactive resource for identification!

Post by Luis Miguel Morillas
But you want to create an encyclopedia of aquatic invertebrates or
some kind of interactive resource to classify them?
Saludos,

Post by Declan
Hi folks
I have put some aquatic insect resources online in WE and I'm considering a
new one.
The idea is an aquatic invertebrate key...point and click with lots of
photographs.
All traditional identification keys essentially work the same way...paired
questions that walk you through the identification process. But imbedded in
this process, and ignored in a paper key, there is some binary logic.
Each
insect either has or has not got each of several characteristics. I think
my first draft will be similar to the traditional, time honored key.
But....I think that I can make the process more efficient by building some
mug shot pages. The idea will be to have panels of 4 images and have users
click on the best match. Most people can tell if they have a snail, an
insect, a worm, or an arachnid. My thinking is that 4 pictorial choices
could rapidly take a person through the process and reduce some frustration
for beginners.
Also built into all organism classifications we have nested groups.
Several
species within each genus; some genera within each family.....etc. I wonder
if I need to build that into file structure? Or would that be better
handled using Wiki categories and sub categories?
Any thoughts or suggestions before I begin?
Cheers
Declan
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Vtaylor

2015-08-09 10:31:13 UTC

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I took the Florida Coastal Naturalist program. The "shark" presentation
included a paper version of identification characteristics. It was really
helpful. I'll send images in a separate post.

This might be a good test of a generalized interactive identifier.

I can image using a visual logic gates system for all kinds of sorting and
identifying applications. Cool idea. Hope it isn't to hard to implement, It
is definitely on the SAMR progression into something that is better with
technology.

..Valerie

Post by Declan
an interactive resource for identification!

Vtaylor

2015-08-09 11:02:45 UTC

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Here are photos of both sides of the Guide to the HMS Sharks of Florida.

There are lots of other characteristics that could be included in a
comparative identification key. When you are limited to 1 sheet of paper
2-sides this is an elegant solution.

..Valerie

Post by Vtaylor
I took the Florida Coastal Naturalist program. The "shark" presentation
included a paper version of identification characteristics. It was really
helpful. I'll send images in a separate post.
This might be a good test of a generalized interactive identifier.
I can image using a visual logic gates system for all kinds of sorting and
identifying applications. Cool idea. Hope it isn't to hard to implement, It
is definitely on the SAMR progression into something that is better with
technology.
..Valerie

Post by Declan
an interactive resource for identification!

Declan

2015-08-21 02:19:32 UTC

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I looked at the shark key. Looks like a fairly typical dichotomous key.
That structure also exists for bugs....great starting point

Another way I'm considering implementing a new key structure:
Provide a set of images and ask a question. As each question is answered
the panel of potential images would change.

For example: if the user answered "yes" to "does the animal have jointed
legs", then all of the worm or snail images would be replaced by
insect/spider images. the panel of images would gradually become a closer
match as more questions were answered.

My thoughts are still in process....
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Luis Miguel Morillas

2015-08-21 07:39:06 UTC

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First you need to have the data structured (categories and templates).
Then I think it's not difficult to implement the logic of this
workflow.

Saludos,

Post by Declan
I looked at the shark key. Looks like a fairly typical dichotomous key.
That structure also exists for bugs....great starting point
Provide a set of images and ask a question. As each question is answered
the panel of potential images would change.
For example: if the user answered "yes" to "does the animal have jointed
legs", then all of the worm or snail images would be replaced by
insect/spider images. the panel of images would gradually become a closer
match as more questions were answered.
My thoughts are still in process....
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